~- Videos -~

Page 32 of 32 Previous  1 ... 17 ... 30, 31, 32

Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2016-09-27, 00:27



Kine + Molotov
Ana + Reinhart
Pocket Medic + Tank
EV game mode

Molo is the big dude with hammer, glow in the dark blue shield and huge HP. Kine is the medic that heals by shooting allies who can periodically boost one of them granting temporarily higher damage, HP regen and faster movement speed.

Already got ~100 hours match time by the time Molo started playing Overwatch. Been squadding up together almost daily since then along with Azh. And every single session, we'd be pairing up Heroes that synergize together and trying to play them tactically.

Honestly - we don't have to.
It's not ranked and most definitely casual matches with randoms.

But we still do it. Playing the game as a squad using 2 man tactics.
Coz - what's the point in not doing it ?

We're both in the same clan. We're both on voice comms. We both spend time on Discord talking about the game, mechanics and meta. Wouldn't it be the dumbest thing ever if we didn't take advantage of that familiarity and cohesion we've built up over this time ?

Kine Medics. Randoms do DPS.
How fucked up is that shit.

I can personally out shoot and out aim 90% of the server population in queue. But I still insist on playing squad tactics. And most of the time it's running as support coz that's the setup and talent pool we happen to have playing Overwatch currently in Creed.

If I kept pub stomp mentality I'd go do my own thing shooting stuff irrespective of what other Creedlings on squad are running. But I don't coz that's dumb. We're in a clan so we do clan stuff. Casual or Ranked.

It takes so much more effort to get a full Creed squad going for DB. But when it does happen, we go semi FFA because it's a casual match ?? And we're 100% certain everybody can switch on tournament mode when playing ranked as a squad coz we have talent on tap ready to activate just say go ?

Without practicing or talking about it and not needing to train on those skill sets ? Like during casual scrims on DBN ?

And it isn't about playing the game like a pro BS. It keeps the interest alive. If clan matches Creed runs is just about the same level of play that you get doing it on solo Q - what's the incentive to be and stay in a clan ?

You're in a clan, with clan mates playing the same game. So do clan stuff. And that implicitly means shedding pub stomp solo hero habits and actually utilize small squad tactics when we do play together.

Tricky commented on Discord that it is unfair to compare the need for squad tactics in OW to DB. As Azh put it, DB is not as tactical as OW.

See - I'm not comparing two different games.

I'm commenting on a single clan's attitude to team play.

Just because you can get away with solo hero shit in DB doesn't mean treating team play as optional is acceptable. What then sets Creed apart from a bunch of talented randoms that happen to be on the same team ?

Casual or Ranked doesn't matter.

If you go in as a premade, you play like a clan. 2,3,4 or 5 stack don't matter. As long as you have a clan mate in the same match - you work together.
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2016-09-28, 06:43



Our 4 man vs a full 6 stack

Zen Zarya + Pharah Mercy

Tank+Medic, DPS+Medic

Zarya is really tanky. Almost unkillable with a pocket medic. Assuming the medic doesn't die. Phara Mercy is early meta whose synergy is based on the medic's ability to fly towards the airborne DPS and apply damage amp or heal. Makes it harder for ground based units to kill the medic while at the same time increasing the effectiveness of the team's DPS unit.

The full stack we went up against didn't really have any form of synergy between them. They had a medic coz they needed one. Ran a tank coz every team needs a tank. And filled the rest of their slots with a random mix of Heroes.

6 man semi FFA premade versus Creed 4 man combo.

Our 2 randoms could pick anything they wanted and we'd still win it tbh. And in the beginning they really did picked to throw the game lol. Twin snipers ftw. The worse of the 2 snipers did the right thing towards the end and switched out to a tank buster who made 2 big pick offs in the final wave of the match.

The other random who stayed sniper didn't suck however. Provided vision for the team with a good amount of uptime. We had eyes on the opposition for almost the entire match.
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2016-09-30, 06:09




Cannot remember when this last happened but we ran a full stack last night. Not much was discussed in terms of micro tactics because we had 3 Diamond ranked players on the team who knew how to get shit done. Comms wise we only had to update locations, focus fire target, ult timings and staggered respawns when it occasionally happens.

Scrubs on the squad were Kine, Ginro and Molotov.

Ginro didn't suck. Was able to get kills in although better choice of targets would be a thing I'm hoping to see next time. There is an order of who should die on the enemy's team and the only time you deviate is if someone else suddenly becomes important (coz reasons). Usually one of the healers or the person in trouble himself make those calls and DPS fix things by killing shit.

Molo didn't go out of his way to combo I'm assuming because he's on an upward trend with Lucio (a healer class) so he stuck with it. Generally not a problem because Lucio is relevant almost all the time. He didn't escort people back from respawn though and speed boosting were done mainly on his own judgement rather than coordinated as part of a team move. It's not that hard, just tell or ask on voice before amping it up.

Kine made a bunch of mistakes. You can point them out for me so I can improve on them. Positioning wise, I did have video POV in mind when I shouldn't some times coz I wanted a better view of the team so it's easier or more obvious to watch. An example of trying to play the game without regard to POV was when I tried (failed at) Mercy. Enemy team wanted to deny me revives so bad I didn't have the luxury of staying alive so half the time I had my face up against the wall.

Long video dump of all but one match we played. Had to discard that one round we lost because it was causing audio desyn. It'd have explained our final winning round better if you could see the way we lost the one before but meh.

Tricky came in late and spectated. Was put into the enemy team because we had a full stack. I gave up my spot so he could run with the crew. Azh prolly upload what went on after that.

20 minutes of Creed domination
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2016-10-01, 03:09



Azh, Bananaman, Tricky, Molo, Ginro, Kine

Losing streak early on before we picked up a couple of wins toward the end. Last 2 matches of that session.
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2016-10-01, 21:56



Bow and arrow pew pew
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2018-04-08, 14:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKprApUIkXk

Blizzard World Defense:

Flanker - Genji

Frontline Support - Brigitte

Mid Tank - Winston
Mid Tank - Roadhog

Mid Support - Moira
Mid Support - Symmetra

1st Point:
- [Symmetra] [Winston] [Brigitte] went on the attack right hand side.
- All 3 heroes had no business contesting any entrance with this comp
- Symmetra is strongest defending aggressively at optimal Sym chokes
- Winston has no one to dive for nor anyone to follow up with.
- In this case Winston's ONLY role on the team is Peeling for the backline

[Hog] Best way to maximize Hog on point defense is to stay far back and land a max range hook to displace enemies as far as his ability allows. There is no point in frontlining a defensive choke only to hook somebody for 5m when your max range is 20m. You ruin an attacker's day by displacing him away from his team and into the back of yours. Brigitte, Symmetra and even Moira are all good follow ups if hook connects.

Moira backlines. Preferably on opposite ends to Symmetra and Genji where her remote heals contributes best. Squishies get good amounts of % healed from Orbs. This way Moira will be healing 2 sides of the point.

Genji is our only source of poke and recon. He is even allowed to dive backline at moment of impact because he honestly isn't our primary source of dmg. Playstyle for Genji in this comp is just to assassinate isolated targets solo when a clash happens.

Brigitte on point defense is easy. You face tank where the main clash happens along with Winston and eventually Hog. This 3 heroes synergizes well together and is really the core of the frontline when the attackers commit to a fight.

POINT A - 1st push

1. Genji was innocently poking, which he rightly should be doing
2. Gets dove on by enemy Winston solo (normally a feed)
3. And no one was there to peel for him except (lol) Moira.
4. Moira is stuck with a dilemma. Push ahead to heal people out of position, let Genji die to Winston and Winston gets free 1 tick capture uncontested
5. OR. Try to peel for Genji putting Moira at risk of dying himself since Winston can survive alot of Moira dmg. If both Genji and Moira dies then the point is as good as gone.
6. While this is happening, our Winston dies up front, Sym trades a 1 for 1 kill on Repear.
7. Hog (Molo) is positionally correct thoughtout all this but given the picks and the instant follow up by enemy Dive tanks, there wasn't much he could do at that point. He miraculously survives at the cost of Moira taking the risk (and dying) to keep one crucial tank alive.

POINT A - 2nd push

- Brigitte, Hog, Winston trio wrecked the enemy trying to form up at the gate.
- Genji swapped out for Reaper and dealt good anti tank dmg

POINT A - 3rd push
- BEAUTIFUL charge by enemy Reinhart pushing Hog and Brigitte, cleaving our team into 2. Followed up by a massive Sombra Ult.
- Winston who was out of position to begin with got isolated and instantly melted... 5v6
- Team was split on either side of the point, Moira doing his best to make correct prioritization possibly clutch counter ult into enemy Reaper ult.
- Team stabilized but we lost Sym teleporter. Symmetra has yet to settle down and hold down one side of a choke.

POINT A - 4th push
- Decent enemy Reinhart shatter. Winston who took high ground wasn't able to block that.
- Winston dove backline and into enemy Reaper consequently insta-fed
- Brigitte, Sym died to enemy follow up
- Hog did well to survive but at this point it was emergency contest (3v6)
- Reaper had the right intention to contest but timed it wrong, entering the foray from the wrong approach (head-on as opposed to in conjunction with Hog and Moira flanking the other side)
- Team wiped, point lost.

OK so here's where I switched off my game.

1. People began bitching about Brigitte when Brigitte made 1 error through out this entire time which was at the start of the game where he went with the suicide trio into mega pack room on the right staircase along with Sym and Winston. Blame should be shared.

2. At all points of the enemy pushes, Winston was truly our handicap.

- Wrong positioning on 1st push
- Wasn't there to peel for our Genji
- Ironically our Symmetra even out the picks with a trade on Reaper.

- Bad ult on 2nd push
- Brigitte, Hog, Winston trio won that one for us
- But the fight could have equally been won as easily without needing Primal
- Winston Ult on point capture rounds should be used exclusively for counter ulting point contest OR as a clutch delay when man down. Instead it was used prematurely.

- On 3rd push winston instantly melted and was once again our first man down.
- I replayed my video a dozen times and my POV missed it. So I cannot tell for sure WTF happened.
- Point of interest here was the enemy Reinhart charge that split our team.
- How did Winston get isolated so far INTO the middle of the enemy team ?
- If it was the result of a leap into them then that is unforgivable.
- If it was a mis-step from pressing W too long then that is questionable as well since why would you walk into the middle of the enemy when they were clearly gearing up for a big ult push ?

- 4th point mess up is more difficult to breakdown
- Winston by default should prioritize nesting up on high ground which was what he did
- But argument is, Winston is the only one who is able to block Reinhart's shatter and we didn't know if Rein has it yet or not. So the initial positioning by Winston was debateably blameless. Personally I would have confronted Reinhart face to face and plan for the worst in case he did have his Ult.
- What is clear cut however is the reaction TO the enemy's Shatter.
- Why drop down the back line when 3 of our friendlies are caught in Reinhart's shatter. Reinhart and DVa led their charge. Reaper and Pharah was DPS on their backline and Moira was solidly in the middle of the pack. There was no engaging that formation.
- We had a solo Reaper DPS. If you are to dive anything it would be something Reaper can follow up on. And walking past a Rein and DVa is not an option for our solo DPS. So why the drop behind enemy lines as Winston in this particular engagement ? Only thing I can deduce is Winston was trying to threaten enemy Moira but to what outcome ? All Rein, DVa, Reaper and Pharah had to do was look your way for 1 second and Winston would be dead while Moira just fades out.


At this point everyone on our Discord was jumping up and down on our Brigitte's ass and I tuned out honestly.

The rest of the match was a showcase of people not understanding how to stabilize and reset as defenders. THE only person I saw fulfilling their role towards the end was our Symmetra who locked down our back door and kept that out of the defense equation as a potential threat. Ironically all Creed did during this time was bitch on the Symmetra who was doing his job.

Was it the best pick to face the enemy 6 stack at that point ? Perhaps no. But atleast he fulfilled his role and stabilized while the rest of our team was trying desperately to get a clue.

Particularly tilting though had to be when I was contesting payload inches away from checkpoint in a 1 v All. When asked why isn't the team there and the answer I got was, we weren't getting heals. Yeah, that's because your Moira was contesting point when y'all was brawling over nothing over there lol.
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Kine² on 2018-04-25, 07:09



Arcade game mode - Mystery Heroes

Spawned as Tracer. Spent the whole match waiting on my team to make a push past the first goddamned chokepoint. Can't blame my team entirely. My Tracer is garbage. Died to Hanzo's scatter arrows ofcourse before respawning as Winston with 24 seconds left on the clock.

Proceeded to demonstrate to my team on the Art of Creating Space by ~Winston.
avatar
Kine²
Eternal Creed Member

Posts : 2687
Join date : 2013-04-13
Age : 38

View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjj8DxQTp5YCFWZ4jchp_Mw

Back to top Go down

Re: ~- Videos -~

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 32 of 32 Previous  1 ... 17 ... 30, 31, 32

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum