To reset or not to reset

Currently I'm looking at a few more easily accessible SP to bring my total to around 95. Things I'm looking out for include Full Gunsmith, 25 Mortars, and Firestab. Unfortunately I can't get all three, basically I'm unwilling to put in the time to do more contracts to get all three. Main weapons that I'll be using are Noveske Silenced, 9A91 FSB, FN P90 PRC, IAR Spectre, and either the Sr3m or the IWI. So if you guys could help me decide between the Sr3m and the IWI by the end of today, and a skill path to follow before my summer break starts in a few weeks, that'd be awesome.

My options for the skill tree are:

No resetting Firestab + Mobility + 25 Mortars(94 SP and Assault Class):

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Reset for Gunsmith + Firestab + Mobility(93 SP and Assault Class):

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Reset for Gunsmith + Firestab + 8 Mortars + No armor(93 SP and Gunsmith Class):

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i say forget the mortars and go all out for all gun skills, including the  no damage penalty for mods

I'm not sure about the nitty-gritty skill tree stuff, but I'd say go with SR3M over X95. They have extremely similar stats, but the thing that wins over for me is the sight. I hate the yellow glowing thing on the x95, and the classic red dot is nice on the SR3M. Also the silenced SR3M sounds like a laser when you shoot it ^^

The skill tree breakdown is basically 25 mortars vs Full Gunsmith and then Assault's +7 penetration and extra mag vs Gunsmith's +10 damage and fast mortars.

Boss1337 wrote:25 mortars vs Full Gunsmith

Do you make more kills with mortars or guns ?
I kill more with guns so mortars is a bonus.
Gun stats* > 25 mortar

Boss1337 wrote:Assault's +7 penetration and extra mag vs Gunsmith's +10 damage and fast mortars.

Penetration hands down. Even if it was +3 penetration I would take it over +10 damage. Up top, damage is inconsequential. It is your penetration numbers that kill those p2w madafakas.


* Gunstats is also a lie.
Fact that I can kill people with pistols without feeling handicapped makes full gunsmith seem vain.

Rate of fire, weapon max range, penetration - these are the things that makes a difference in the space of milliseconds when versing another pro. These things translates to actual kills.

Gunsmith is only there to make you feel good owning guns.

There are also other 'exotic' skills people often exclude from 'core' builds that I feel contribute more than gunsmith - like recoil reduction, move speed while ADS'ing**, raising enemy crosshair spread, double XP from longshots and eventually VSSK. Even that Spec Shottie would be a worthy investment come clanrace again.

** useful assuming you went down scout for range+rof and got +12 mobility along the way. Imagine firestabbing on the move with certain guns. Those DEVGRU guys mowing down nubs on evac never pausing for a second ? That. Although I would use it for other things like 1v1 at a distance vs pros. Scoping in and out ... again, those are precious milliseconds. You can always alter how you engage ppl but still, we're talking about spending SP's beyond core so ....

I agree with Kine.

I mainly aim for heads and use guns where the sights make it easy to do so. The +10 damage is mainly for killing newly spawned VIPs which is the main streak breaker for me. I'll predict a spawn correctly, my VIP suddenly dies, and the VIP spawns and kills me.

Also the point about mortars isn't really true for me, since I bash the 20-59 OSM servers. Get mortar > die > respawn and throw sonar > kill 3~ people > throw mortar and get 5~ kills > throw second mortar and get another 5~ kills > finish off prokill. In a typical prokill, usually around 10 of the 20 kills will be mortar kills, sometimes even more. Gives me piece of mind to spray enemies full of bullets to make sure they're dead when I only need to kill ~7 people with ~160 bullets.

EDIT: Though after looking at the damage/armor model and doing some calculations, +7 pen does have a slight advantage over +10 damage against armored opponents killing with 1 bullet less, but +5 pen and +10 damage together is just about equal to +12 pen. +10 damage obviously is better against unarmored opponents.

penetration may not be affected by falloff. never got around to checking it.

I would get gunsmith purely for the fact that you are able to max out a lot more weapons at 100 accuracy. The ability to get a gun to 100 accuracy i feel is the most important factor. I've started playing a bit more recently and working towards my final few SP so that I can max out my gunsmith completely. I only have mortars because I can afford to have mortars after owning everything else.